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Re: Occam-Tau - the natural successor to Occam-Pi - or is there one already?




On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:26 AM, "Eric Verhulst \(ALTREONIC\)" <eric.verhulst@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I guess you are right. But this also means that the notion of PRI(ority) was screwed up.
 
It really meant "the first one in the list". Assuming that the second one on the list had a higher priority (which could not be specified) but was inserted later, it wouldn't have mattered. Hence the conclusion remains the same: assume nothing about the order or priority.
 
With a priority sorted list, this dilemma disappears. The priority is a system wide property (e.g. assigned to a task at design time following a RMA). When waiting on a priority sorted list, one gets the highest priority one that was inserted (before the waiting) even if inserted the last.

"One gets the highest priority one that was inserted" is always true but "before the waiting" is ambiguous. It's the highest priority one that was inserted before its own disabling. (If the ALT is in a low-priority process and the sender high priority, it could have even been inserted via an interrupt just before that disable instruction was executed, i.e. after the "waiting" was finished and some higher-ALT-priority disable instructions came up empty.)

"The first one on the list" (the source listing of the PRI ALT, or the assembly code listing of the disables) is the one that gets the highest priority. However, if by "list" you mean the readies that are inserted by the prospective senders, the one that has higher priority does get chosen even if it came ready later, as long as it came ready before the disable. This is a frequent occurrence when senders come ready to communicate before this ALT instance is executed --- for example, while the code branch resulting from a previous ALT selection in this same loop is still being executed, which may take a while. In such a case there is no wait. If the ALT suffers a wait, that is if no senders are in line when it got enabled, then the race is still possible but less frequent.

If there is a wait, and an ALT-lower-priority sender beats the ALT-higher-priority one by a few cycles, then the ALT disables will trigger fast enough to draw a blank on the higher-priority one and select the lower-priority one. It is immaterial whether the lower priority sender is PRI-high-priority or PRI-low-priority, though PRI-high-priority senders will tend to win these races because they can interrupt. In any such case, the ALT-high-priority sender will be picked up on the next loop iteration.

Larry

Again, one should not assume anything about  the order but at least now the highest priority one is received first. This mechanism reduces the blocking time for higher priority tasks in the system and generally improves the real-time behavior without affecting the logical behaviour, if correctly used.
 
Eric
 
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On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Eric Verhulst (ALTREONIC) <eric.verhulst@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


 
PS.
 
The PRI ALT is just a language concept. As far as I know never implemented.
 
This appears to be exactly backward. The PRI ALT is the only thing ever implemented. The priority depends on the order of disabling. See the Inmos Compiler Writers Guide.
 
Larry
 
The consequence is that it is really an ALT. Which means , don't assume anything about the order in which the ALT triggers. If not, you are likely to introduce side-effects in the code. Therefore the opposite is better. Always implement in order of priority but still assume that the "select" is priority independent. It keeps the behaviour consistent even if the timings (in a network) vary. Because in practice, one should not assume anything about the order of things on other nodes. Logical (functional) behaviour and timing behavior should be independent.